Perhaps it was a … Perhaps it was a mistake on my part to demonstrate the gravel cleaner in this way without explaining that the “Sh*t” that falls back out to the bottom is sand. It is heavier than the waste and therefore does not fall back. Sand is an important component to the aquarium cleaning gravel bed. Since sand is good enough as a biolgical filter to keep the oceans clean, who am I to argue with nature?
It is doubtful that … It is doubtful that you have this cleaner, since the version broadcast is a prototype. The “crap” that you refer to is sand. It falls back because it is heavier than the waste matter that is absorbed into the filter. Sand, in and of itself, is an excellent addition to the gravel bed because of its biological filtration properties. Sand is good enough to keep the oceans clean and it is certainly good enough to help clean my aquarium fish tank.
As you can imagine, … As you can imagine, I have tried many pumps of various sizes, from the smallest to the largest, in terms of their suction capacity. If you have a very large fish tank, 50 gallons plus, you might obviously find a higher pumping capacity device very useful. As a hobbyist, you know what’s best for the cleaning necessities of your tank.
i think this thing … i think this thing is useful. cleaning the gravel for me right now involves removing it by hand ,,, washing it and putting it back in the tank. this alows you to remove the particulate matter in situ. then OFCOURSE you would do your regular water change to get rid of nitrates etc. that plus changing the carbon in your filter is a must.
On the contrary, … On the contrary, the beneficial organisms are just that-organisms-too small and widespread throughout the aquarium environment. It would be like removing hydrogen atoms from the water in the aquarium by using a filter.
o and every once in … o and every once in a while u are soposed to do a water change.. so just vacume the gravel.. then fill your tank back to the top depending on how much water u filtered out. its really simple.
ur soposed to … ur soposed to vacume your gravel it gets rid of poop and decaying food which causes amonia!! ur never going to get rid of the bacteria completely. and if ur worried about that they have some beneficial bacteria u can put in ur tank after u vacume it.
let me explain what … let me explain what I am talking about.
dissolved organic solids and nitrates are in all the water in the tank. if all this gadget does is filter the water and recycle it then its not removing any of the nitrates or the dissolved organic material from the water.
I still do not see any advantage it has over a python. it does dont even have the vacuum ability of a python from what I see in the video.
You umed that … You umed that dissolved organic waste remains in the gravel. On the contrary, because it is dissolved, it is already everywhere in the water, top to bottom. Ammonia is the chief killer of aquarium fish and it certainly does not confine itself within the gravel bed. Think about it.
its junk!!!
your … its junk!!!
your pulling up dissolved organic solids that are too small to filter and blowing it allthrough the tank and then it takes about 20%percent of the water and changes it.
after it has incresed the dissolved organic solid content throughout the entire tank.
with a python or a gravel vac your sucking out all the from the gravel with no contamination to the rest of the tank.
then your putting in clean water.
think about it !!
The gravel cleaner … The gravel cleaner separates gravel cleaning and water changing into two steps. In the gravel cleaning phase, water is recycled back into the aquarium. In the second phase, a 20 percent water change is completed. With this approach, a precise aquarium water volume change is permitted and the user is allowed to take as much time as he/she needs to clean the gravel thoroughly. This is not the case with the Python. Thanks for your comments.
here is what is … here is what is wrong with this thing and why a normal gravel vac or a python is better.
this thing does not remove water from the system.
you still have to remove some of the water from an aquarium because of dissolved organic solids and nitrates that inhibit fish growth.
if this device removed everyhing from the water and made the water pure then let me see someone drink what comes out the other end.
stick with a python or a gravel vac.
you have to change some of the water anyway
my tank cleaner is … my tank cleaner is those normal one, without the pump (high capacity), mine does not have a high suction, mine just sucks enough to get all the nasty stuff in gravel out, my tank gravel layer is not that deep, it about 1 inch, or half an inch.
Perhaps it was a …
Perhaps it was a mistake on my part to demonstrate the gravel cleaner in this way without explaining that the “Sh*t” that falls back out to the bottom is sand. It is heavier than the waste and therefore does not fall back. Sand is an important component to the aquarium cleaning gravel bed. Since sand is good enough as a biolgical filter to keep the oceans clean, who am I to argue with nature?
It is doubtful that …
It is doubtful that you have this cleaner, since the version broadcast is a prototype. The “crap” that you refer to is sand. It falls back because it is heavier than the waste matter that is absorbed into the filter. Sand, in and of itself, is an excellent addition to the gravel bed because of its biological filtration properties. Sand is good enough to keep the oceans clean and it is certainly good enough to help clean my aquarium fish tank.
As you can imagine, …
As you can imagine, I have tried many pumps of various sizes, from the smallest to the largest, in terms of their suction capacity. If you have a very large fish tank, 50 gallons plus, you might obviously find a higher pumping capacity device very useful. As a hobbyist, you know what’s best for the cleaning necessities of your tank.
really good vid
really good vid
if it had a greater …
if it had a greater pump it would be grate
i have this cleaner …
i have this cleaner and crap doesnt fall back?
I agree with the …
I agree with the bible spitter
:p…
does a pretty …
does a pretty crappy job, all the just falls back out the bottom!
good filter works …
good filter works too =/
vacume cleaner ftw>!
vacume cleaner ftw>!
I dont see the draw …
I dont see the draw back in doing a larger than 20% waterchange?
this is totally stupid.
i think this thing …
i think this thing is useful. cleaning the gravel for me right now involves removing it by hand ,,, washing it and putting it back in the tank. this alows you to remove the particulate matter in situ. then OFCOURSE you would do your regular water change to get rid of nitrates etc. that plus changing the carbon in your filter is a must.
good point
good point
On the contrary, …
On the contrary, the beneficial organisms are just that-organisms-too small and widespread throughout the aquarium environment. It would be like removing hydrogen atoms from the water in the aquarium by using a filter.
o and every once in …
o and every once in a while u are soposed to do a water change.. so just vacume the gravel.. then fill your tank back to the top depending on how much water u filtered out. its really simple.
ur soposed to …
ur soposed to vacume your gravel it gets rid of poop and decaying food which causes amonia!! ur never going to get rid of the bacteria completely. and if ur worried about that they have some beneficial bacteria u can put in ur tank after u vacume it.
I imagine this …
I imagine this would remove any of the beneficial organisms in the substrate
let me explain what …
let me explain what I am talking about.
dissolved organic solids and nitrates are in all the water in the tank. if all this gadget does is filter the water and recycle it then its not removing any of the nitrates or the dissolved organic material from the water.
I still do not see any advantage it has over a python. it does dont even have the vacuum ability of a python from what I see in the video.
You umed that …
You umed that dissolved organic waste remains in the gravel. On the contrary, because it is dissolved, it is already everywhere in the water, top to bottom. Ammonia is the chief killer of aquarium fish and it certainly does not confine itself within the gravel bed. Think about it.
and if you dont vac …
and if you dont vac that gravel you will have anaerobic bacteria growing in your gravel.
not a good thing to happen.
its junk!!!
your …
its junk!!!
your pulling up dissolved organic solids that are too small to filter and blowing it allthrough the tank and then it takes about 20%percent of the water and changes it.
after it has incresed the dissolved organic solid content throughout the entire tank.
with a python or a gravel vac your sucking out all the from the gravel with no contamination to the rest of the tank.
then your putting in clean water.
think about it !!
The gravel cleaner …
The gravel cleaner separates gravel cleaning and water changing into two steps. In the gravel cleaning phase, water is recycled back into the aquarium. In the second phase, a 20 percent water change is completed. With this approach, a precise aquarium water volume change is permitted and the user is allowed to take as much time as he/she needs to clean the gravel thoroughly. This is not the case with the Python. Thanks for your comments.
that is true but …
that is true but the python does not return the water to the tank.
here is what is …
here is what is wrong with this thing and why a normal gravel vac or a python is better.
this thing does not remove water from the system.
you still have to remove some of the water from an aquarium because of dissolved organic solids and nitrates that inhibit fish growth.
if this device removed everyhing from the water and made the water pure then let me see someone drink what comes out the other end.
stick with a python or a gravel vac.
you have to change some of the water anyway
my tank cleaner is …
my tank cleaner is those normal one, without the pump (high capacity), mine does not have a high suction, mine just sucks enough to get all the nasty stuff in gravel out, my tank gravel layer is not that deep, it about 1 inch, or half an inch.
good video on the Aquarium cleaner!